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Anyone have any thoughts on sleep paralysis? I used to have this, in my 20s ans 30s. Scary stuff. Usually happened when I was really tired. Used to hear what I could only describe as "evil" tones in my ears that got louder and louder. Not full chords, just tones that i "felt" malevolence from. Then when I tried to wake up, I was paralysed.. couldn't move or speak. Always heard about theories of demons, etc. playing a part in this. It sure felt like something evil was messing with me. Anyone have insights, or know what (or who) is to blame? Even if it's not demons, it's still interesting to me.
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Yeah, i think it's demons. I have gotten this a few times in the '70s and '80s (in my 20s and 30s). Physically asleep and unable to wake up, yet aware that i was in bed unable to move and sensing a malevolent presence.
In a situation like that, it helps to center oneself in the hara.
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i just jailed her. Took seconds.
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NATAH'N
Last edited by DanaSG (2019-10-03 12:59:40)
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Just had a short but very unpleasant bout with this. WTF?? It's just been a shitty day all together. You still lose, evil scum.
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Now that I am more awake, wanted to add that before I dropped off to sleep, I made a very deliberate attempt to stay lucid, something I haven't tried to do in the manner in which I did tonight. I kept opening my eyes each time the weirdness of R.E.M. sleep began, saying to myself, "stay lucid" and, "you're dreaming". Then all of a sudden.... BAM. Paralyzed. And immediately messed with. Hard to describe, but in a malevolent way.
Yuck.
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Now that I am more awake, wanted to add that before I dropped off to sleep, I made a very deliberate attempt to stay lucid, something I haven't tried to do in the manner in which I did tonight. I kept opening my eyes each time the weirdness of R.E.M. sleep began, saying to myself, "stay lucid" and, "you're dreaming". Then all of a sudden.... BAM. Paralyzed. And immediately messed with. Hard to describe, but in a malevolent way.
Yuck.
Another thing I just remembered: as I was drifting off, I kept feeling itchy on different parts of my body. I spontaneously said, "Jesus, keep the demons away". Next thing, i drifted off, then the paralysis.
Well, damn. That had the OPPOSITE effect.
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NATAH'N
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Its not exactly about paralysis but still pretty weird and demonic.Did you guys had a nightmare you wanted to wake up from and you just couldn't do it immediately ? So today when i was very sleepy in the morning i went to sleep again.Whole dream was like reality but imagine u are thrown into demonic world.I could say i was in my house and there were some people from my close family and some people i never meet.I went upstairs to meet them,they were mist shadows, weird thing to observe: everything looked like complete darkness was casted upon things but this darkness was weird i was feeling like my senses are different because of that this_ darkness_ had different density in different places i was feeling that there is light in the air its hard to explain but i think this darkness was pretty much like mist i think i was seeing some light but it was like it was right touching my eyes and everything else is dark.Another thing about density, it was harder to move around than in water but it felt like i was very heavy.Much time after i meet the people i was fighting hand to hand with some of them
they were laughing and changing shapes it was hard to tell by just looking but i think i felt this moving and changing sensation with my fist as i was hitting them.Some more time passed and i was walking around crying and calling Loohan and Jesus for help.Some more time passed and i was suddenly awake.Dream felt like it was even 20 minutes of time.And last think to note, when i wake up im immediately like in best shape like i wasn't sleeping and i wasn't in a cold sweet my heartbeat was normal and for my surprise my face wasn't covered in tears.
" I willed it, so I became it"
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Last edited by Pepper (2015-07-28 06:41:01)
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This is the answer: First of all, I invited NO ONE. Maybe i wrote it poorly. But... If wanting to lucid dream is inviting malevolent entities, that's news to me, as well as to many. I understand that merely closing your eyes at any time, not just in sleep, immediately puts you on a different "plane" and makes one much more vulnerable to disembodied entities. I am not energy sensitive. I, like millions, just happen to want to lucid dream. I am hardly alone. Non-energy sensitive folks like me know there is more out there than just our hum-drum lives, and we just want to experience more than this societal world. And i have tried to meditate for years. I really think i have to fix my Aspergers brain more (not tryna make excuses). I wanna stab people who say " don't sweat the small stuff" ...or just give them my Aspergers hypersensitivities for a week. Anyway, I have had ONE lucid dream in my life, during my New Age fascination, which has since been largely debunked as lizard BS, so I don't know WTF. Second, I have Aspergers, so there is a very logical, long-thought-out REASON behind every single thing i do. Every single thing. And everything is black or white... great or terrible. Anything in between is unacceptable. Third, i believe stuff that no one else in my life can relate to. Generally I don't care. But be a loner your entire life and you'll see, bad days are very very lonely. And to a perfectionist, that means I am to blame. Put these three things together. Now u have a person who cannot really relate to any fucking body on this planet, and have no real reason to think my life here is anything but a big waste of fucking time. I am just about done with all this.My life is one big ball of paranoid. Every person i meet is suspect. There is no gray area. The facts that 1. there are so many shapeshifters, and 2. I am a massive (Aspergers, but that's not an acceptable excuse for me)perfectionist makes it impossible for me to give anyone a chance, or believe anything anyone says. They may be once again lying, and that makes me angry. (People always make me angry. All day, everyday, by their JUDGING others while being idiots in other ways themselves.) The only reason I believe Loohans blog (used to not; quit reading it for years, then went back, prolly cuz I am a contrarian) sure wasn't because I have any proof that he is trustworthy).I, like everyone, is made to feel like what and how i think/feel are SOOO strange or wrong by others. You say, "why would you ask Jesus??", but EVERYONE I KNOW, EVERYWHERE says "Jesus will help you, why WOULDN'T you ask him for help?? Whoever wouldn't ask for his help just needs to take a serious look at themselves." I loved the whole Jesus thing, according to my trusted authors, who said that he was not the son of God, but simply an enlightened guy, who was Gnostic, went to India to learn enlightenment, blah blah blah. Then these people, including Abraham Hicks, were debunked as being freakin agents. (Of course they are agents. Shit.) So then for years i stopped believing he ever existed, because of all the shit i used to read during my "awakening" from authors that made very valid points as to why he did not really ever exist.
Now for the REASON i brought Jesus into this last night (besides the obvious fact that when i am halfway asleep, i really can't explain why i do what I do): I am not Christian. Or religious. To me that equals sheep. I stopped praying years back. Why? Because according to people I respected opinions of at the time, those "Masters" like those grew up praying to as a Catholic were supposedly evil: Jesus= Sananda= archon-infested (past tense). The saints of my Catholic upbringing= evil. Of course they are, why would I be surprised? Good is bad, bad is good. But Loohans writings about Jesus (the man) over the years gave me a bit of hope. But then, I would think, maybe I am being duped again. WHO DO I BELIEVE. Anyway... Recently i read in Loohans blog about Jesus not knowing that 3 of his disciples were SSers. That hit me hard. Even Jesus the Christed soul was being duped, like I am by these ETs. RELATABLE. I was falling asleep and just wanted some freakin peace, so I thought, maybe Jesus IS someone I can call on, and so I asked him for help. So. In my mind this is a no-brainer.
Dreams: Yes I know dreams are "powerful"... whatever "powerful" is, since this and all things i believe to be subjective and vary depending on who's perceiving. This is to me because of our addictions to emotions and over-dramatizing everything, as if all this shit is real and not just an illusion, a mind virus. I agree with that being of the Lacerta race who said that we are a genetically modified species, brought here as an experiment by an ET race, and have no "protection mechanism" to guard against more advanced races messing with us simple humans (we worry about things like Facebook, instagram, being liked and "becoming", while a quite more advanced race can destroy us all with just a thought).
All this may seem like some random rant to others. To me, it's what I live. Matter of fact, I think I am done tryna be more energy sensitive, combat SSers, all of it. I'm tired of being so angered by "people" that may be fooling me. So go ahead, SSers. FOOL ME. Befriend me. Hurt me. Couldn't be much worse than my constant paranoia that you are doing it anyway already. When I move back to the Midwestern U.S. in two weeks, I am gonna go back to being normal. I am gonna eat my mom's cooking (gmo, wheat pasta, etc), and fit in. I am gonna smoke weed, drink beer, and have fun. And fit in. I am done with not trusting. What has it gotten me? Not a goddamn thing except unemployment and alienated from past and potential friends. I am too hyperstimulated. Overwhelmed. I just want out but I am too logical for suicide. The alternative? To "enjoy" the physical life I have. And risk the only part of my existence that i am proud of....my soul. What exactly is the advantage of having one anyway? And I may not even have one. Don't ask me.
HASHTAG.SO.DONE.
Hmnn, sorry to hear that... but I'd say: don't play with dreams ;-). They have their very deep purpose. I think, as one of the functions, they really mirror our unconscious mind. They can show the most amazing things as well as nightmares.
Recently I was attacked twice by very nasty demons, while dreaming. (My dreams get lucid, when they suppose to - I don't need to ask for that.)
So, to the point: WHY did you 'invited' those, who took over your body, at the first place??? To show you - what?? And Jesus - what he suppose to do with it?? He is a Master Healer, not a demon fighter (in my eyes anyway). These are some questions, you might be asking...
P.S. I think most times that I am way out of my league, posting on this forum. I think that is why many enabled users don't. But looking foolish has never kept me from doing anything. Ever.
Last edited by Pepper (2015-07-28 08:39:14)
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Pepper everything you know comes from other people, there is not a lot of things that people learn by yourself like walking.And what you learned ? To live as a slave not to as a king.You should feel like your own king,teacher,your own student.Thinking of some people leads only to depression, if you thoughts make you feel bad,sad you should stop thinking and start to practice non-stop meditation.To be honest i can meditate almost every second but if i stop what i think about ? I think what i want " I want to be the best, i want to be the strongest,i want to make people unconscious by looking at them.Weird thing to note despite the meditation i have a lot of impulses that i don't think they even comes from me but i don't even care as they are to frightening: Im on a walk and i want to punch someone in the face, kill someone, jump in front of speeding car. A lot things which i experience every day makes me feel bad about others and myself so i stopped caring about everything.Meditate,meditate control your thoughts make your will stronger, be the best version of yourself.You should find good book about good affirmations,programming yourself with good thoughts, it should help.
" I willed it, so I became it"
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Pepper everything you know comes from other people, there is not a lot of things that people learn by yourself like walking.And what you learned ? To live as a slave not to as a king.You should feel like your own king,teacher,your own student.Thinking of some people leads only to depression, if you thoughts make you feel bad,sad you should stop thinking and start to practice non-stop meditation.To be honest i can meditate almost every second but if i stop what i think about ? I think what i want " I want to be the best, i want to be the strongest,i want to make people unconscious by looking at them.Weird thing to note despite the meditation i have a lot of impulses that i don't think they even comes from me but i don't even care as they are to frightening: Im on a walk and i want to punch someone in the face, kill someone, jump in front of speeding car. A lot things which i experience every day makes me feel bad about others and myself so i stopped caring about everything.Meditate,meditate control your thoughts make your will stronger, be the best version of yourself.You should find good book about good affirmations,programming yourself with good thoughts, it should help.
Thanks man.
I love this forum.
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True, true. I am finally at a point where I can chill and smoke a bowl. I knew for a few years that I would be an infiltator. Hard to accept that I have to be shoulder to shoulder with THEM. But.... life ain't NEVER gonna be easy for us. I can't do anything else but fight the good fight. Amen!!
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When the world comes to an end, just tend to your gardens and feed your friends.. Or something. I think now, the reason why I do anything is I want to. Of course there are morals and what's fruitious for a more thriving future, but that comes back to tending your gardens. Making the world a better place is feeding your friends. The idea cones from the book Candid. Ironic.. Inside irony. No explanation.. Tending a garden doesn't really involve destruction, but pest control. The lettuce bugs gotta go. I see no reason to infiltrate maggots and moles. Gotta be careful with these analogies and realities I dispense from my silly mind like dandruff.
Sometimes, the kid in me doesn't want to do squat, and I feel like it's all just futile, but a perfect garden is possible, and the wise old man drinks a cup of green tea and gets back to work tilling the garden, metaphorically. I gotta stop drinking energy drinks.. And actually start drinking green tea.
Hmm, by world's end, I guess that means tending gardens to feed to the parasites, AKA "The Game".. All that coming to an end. Those pesky tomato bugs are sucking on our brain matter.. What a drain to live in a capitalist world. Would be nice if the tomatoe bugs weren't the rulers of this world.
Last edited by cosmicbal (2015-08-07 22:20:01)
Be calm, be Upright.
Be anchored in your own Light.
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