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#1 2015-01-23 18:52:32

Pepper
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steam using tap water

It is dry here in Philly in the winter, and my old Victorian house gets cold. So I decided to use a vaporizer to put some warm humidity in the air at night while i sleep. Does anyone know if it is ok to use tap water in a vaporizer? Yes, I know it's techically ok. I am not talking about hurting the vaporizer. It is because the tap water in my city is terrible. Worse than other places i have lived. Plus the fluoridation. I don't want that crap getting into my skin. I been using jugs of (elleged) "spring" water for piece of mind. But I am getting sick of having to walk 6 blocks back home almost daily with all those gallon jugs (i buy at least 3 at a time). Since i cook with them too, i run out fast. If the steam from tap water is not as toxic as in liquid form, I'd rather use tap. It'd be hella easier.

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#2 2015-01-23 19:46:10

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Re: steam using tap water

I have read that "everything" in the water will evap and coat your walls etc. but that has to be bunk because so much mineral crud accumulates in the container.
I understand fluoride is not volatile.

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#3 2015-01-24 14:40:04

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Re: steam using tap water

I live near Philly, and we have extremely hard water.  I get blue cuprite stalactites on my faucets, and we have to snake our entire water pipe system once a year.  Water left to evaporate leaves an orange scum with tiny blue and white crystals.  (So iron AND copper AND calcite.)  We use distilled water around the house for all cooking, drinking AND to fill hubby's vaporizer.  Mostly because he is prone to inhale the vapors when his sinuses are clogged.  Even a standard water filter doesn't do the job.  I've gotten used to going to BJ's weekly to fill water jugs.  And this is city water, not from a well.  Terrible stuff.

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#4 2015-01-26 22:40:15

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Re: steam using tap water

Thx. I used distilled in it once, the rest of the time just that bottled "spring water", which I cook with too. I could easily just go back to distilled if that's better.. I am paranoid about that non-see-through plastic that the distilled, etc comes in. I can taste it. There's one spring water that comes in clear plastic that I use. Can't think about all the plastic seepage that I can't taste sad  Don't have a car to refill any big containers... did when i lived in Cali. Gotta carry it from trolley 5 blocks to my house. I heard that drinking distilled water on the daily is bad for u. But then, what water available to me isn't hmm

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#5 2015-01-27 09:30:22

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Re: steam using tap water

Pepper wrote:

I heard that drinking distilled water on the daily is bad for u. But then, what water available to me isn't hmm

Yeah, all the distilled in plastic is not really good for internal use, as distilled is super reactive and leeches out many toxins from the plastic. This stuff is mainly suited for refilling car batteries.

I get my drinking water from my workplace which has a super good filter. But i am looking into gravity-fed filters. There are many good ones with stainless steel canisters. Might cost close to $200 and occasional filter replacements.
Berkey is SSer co. though.

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#6 2015-01-27 13:08:52

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Re: steam using tap water

Loohan wrote:

I get my drinking water from my workplace which has a super good filter. But i am looking into gravity-fed filters. There are many good ones with stainless steel canisters. Might cost close to $200 and occasional filter replacements.
Berkey is SSer co. though.

Which filters get rid of the fluoride in the tap water, or is this an issue, as much as not drinking out of plastic? Brings up something I been wondering about for a while now. Which is better: water from a faucet filter, which still contains all the fluoride that the city puts in because it's still tap water...OR.... bottled water that's had reverse osmosis??? I agonize over this.  I always scoffed at people with faucet filters because of all that fluoride they're drinking.
NOTE: I can't afford anything more than a faucet filter for a while. Plus my landlord would have a problem with anything large cuz we're all moving out soon. Just got a job and gotta pay off my debts. But water is a HUGE deal for me. When I move in a few months I'd totally consider gravity fed filter! It's top priority for me.

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#7 2015-01-27 13:56:14

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Re: steam using tap water

If you already have a faucet filter, depending on brand, u might be able to get a fluoride cartridge for it. I bought such a cartridge to fit a cheap standard Home Depot type filter late last century but still haven't used it.
Some of the gravity brands have special fluoride filters.
Ordinary carbon block filters do take out a fraction of the fluoride. It is my understanding that they take out a lot more if u run the water slowly. Mordok takes Vise-Grips and puts just enough pressure on the plastic tube that it takes all night to fill a qt jar. Or something like that. He believes it removes it all. (Although i don't think our water here is fluoridated yet.)

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#8 2015-01-27 16:18:42

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Re: steam using tap water

I used to use a vise grip but lately I have been using a tiny C clamp.  I'd love to find one that uses fine threads for adjusting the pressure in smaller amounts than what course threads can do.  Almost any type of clamp can work, but I find that some will change with heating and cooling and one day I'll get fast drips and another I'll get slow drips...  without changing the clamp.

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#9 2015-01-27 18:08:02

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Re: steam using tap water

Thx heaps for all this.  Seems faucet filters are better than bottled. If anyone has suggestions for a certain brand or type of faucet filter, pls share.
Those kinda pricey water pitchers with the carbon filters on top, those take forever to fill up.. guess that's good too for fluoride removal. At this point just getting most of the fluoride out would be sensational,  til I can upgrade.

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#10 2015-01-27 19:44:11

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Re: steam using tap water

I'd advise getting a plain Home Depot filter (after searching around for alternative cartridges that fit it; i know there used to be real good cartridges u can put in them).
Only thing is, the fluoride filter alone might not get rid of the other junk that well. So u might be best off getting a good carbon filter and slowing it down. I got such a cartridge here
http://www.ecowise.com/
when i was in Austin in '95, but i dunno if he still sells them. He's a cool guy though who might answer ur questions.

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#11 2015-01-27 19:45:41

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Re: steam using tap water

I got my first filter from here... http://www.purewaterproducts.com/ ... the Model 77.  I got it before I moved to FL in '03 and I took it with me when I moved from IA to FL, then to NV, on to CO and back to FL.  Then I added a second housing to run two filter cartridges and took that from FL to SC and on here to AR.  I buy the filter carts from them, about once every 14 months or so.  A filter cart lasts well over a year.  When I went to two filters is when I got serious about the fluoride and started  using the clamp.  The owner told me that for as long as I own the housings, the company will replace anything that goes bad (besides the filter carts) for free.  I get a new diverter valve every few years and it has never cost me a thing.  Last year when I was going to order new filter carts Loohan checked them out and the company has been infected with some ETs, but they didn't seem to mess with my filters any.  Just that the owner took my order and his warward ability with numbers took my package for a long ride before we sorted it out and it finally arrived here.

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#12 2015-01-27 21:56:54

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Re: steam using tap water

I get water all over the states from tap out of truck stops... Refill my plastic gallon jugs. I feel GREAT! Lol, I do use a filter I bought at Wal-Mart called Zero or something. Supposed to bring the TDS (total dissolved solids) to zero. If you buy the big one you get a free TDS meter that will tell you truck stops tap is 150-250 TDS... After filtering, it brings it to 0-6. Supposed to replace filter when it gets to 6. I get free water and filter it is what it boils down to. Or vaporizes. smile

Dunno if it reduces fluoride and chlorine, but water tastes fine to me. Odorless and tasteless after first couple goes in a new filter..

FYI there is a sink next to the coffee machines at most every truck stop. I never get hassled.

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#13 2015-01-28 09:21:37

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Re: steam using tap water

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#14 2015-01-28 09:54:24

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Re: steam using tap water

Found the faucet filter I want:
http://m.homedepot.com/p/Perfect-Water- … 203841387/
There's a cheaper version, but I like this "Elite". Gets out cloramines, soluable heavy metals, etc. and for just $10 more.
The filter:
http://m.homedepot.com/p/Perfect-Water- … 841393-_-N
Filter's a bit more than the other model too. Gotta change it every 3 months if using for fluoride removal... NO problem with that.
...and to think I believed it when I was told reverse osmosis was the only way to get out fluoride hmm

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#15 2015-01-28 10:16:37

Pepper
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Re: steam using tap water

cosmicbal wrote:

I get water all over the states from tap out of truck stops... Refill my plastic gallon jugs. I feel GREAT! Lol, I do use a filter I bought at Wal-Mart called Zero or something. Supposed to bring the TDS (total dissolved solids) to zero. If you buy the big one you get a free TDS meter that will tell you truck stops tap is 150-250 TDS... After filtering, it brings it to 0-6. Supposed to replace filter when it gets to 6. I get free water and filter it is what it boils down to. Or vaporizes. smile

Dunno if it reduces fluoride and chlorine, but water tastes fine to me. Odorless and tasteless after first couple goes in a new filter..

FYI there is a sink next to the coffee machines at most every truck stop. I never get hassled.

I had this when I lived in Cali. Had my authoritarian fun with that meter it came with. ...then learned about fluoride. It does not get out fluoride so I immediately chucked it. Couldn't even look at it after that. Kept thinking how evil it was lol (my brain's extreme like that).
What's blowing my mind right now is how the fluoride, etc. doesn't seem to keep u from having bigtime energy sensitivity.  Really makes me rethink all my efforts to increase my sensitivity.......
But I'm too determined to give up now, even if it's in vain. Gotta do something to pass time until I'm dead lol.

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