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#1 2015-01-12 16:16:58

Loohan
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shielding "smart" meters

This article has some ideas:
http://www.activistpost.com/2015/01/pro … smart.html

I don't like the idea of expensive shields that can easily be ripped off. Prefer the DIY approach.

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#2 2015-01-13 06:17:09

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Re: shielding "smart" meters

Shielding only helps with smartmeters that transmit wirelessly. Other types transmit via the grid - making all the house-wiring act as an antenna.
Other measures are needed to block this.

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#3 2015-01-13 09:23:49

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Re: shielding "smart" meters

Lovely. Didn't know that. That must be what i have:
electric_meter.jpg
as i never could get a read off the meter with a trifield meter nor a wifi hot-spot detecter.
Of course my house wiring has lots of PRG etc resin items all along it, taped on with that metallized tape. And there is a gallon or more of resin stuff between the meter pole and the cabin.
Never could detect much in the way of EMF inside house, either, though, and nothing at all on wifi hot-spot gizmo.

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#4 2015-01-13 10:14:37

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Re: shielding "smart" meters

They transmit pulses of only 2-millisecond length, so cannot be measured with a trifield meter (which is not very sensitive anyway).
And the frequency differs a lot from wi-fi, so it is unlikely that a wifi hot-spot detector will show anything.

http://stopsmartmeters.org/frequently-a … on-issues/

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#5 2015-01-13 15:16:36

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Re: shielding "smart" meters

NATAH'N

Last edited by DanaSG (2019-10-03 13:03:44)

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#6 2015-01-13 17:40:25

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Re: shielding "smart" meters

DanaSG wrote:

. But Jonas told me to get those markes on verything in a house, so I did smile.
Sorry, I cannot get the pict in the propper way (I'm programming illiterate roll, more guidence needed. But I'm managing smilies so far big_smile!)

to place an image on the forum you need to have it uploaded on sites like flickr.com
then copy and paste the url (address) of the image
and place it inside the img tag that is like

 [img]http://www.flickr.com/12354/pics.jpg[/img]

without any space between the two img

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#7 2015-01-14 10:07:38

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Re: shielding "smart" meters

I don't know just how much mitigating effect orgonite or images have on the RF. Maybe i should have paid extra for shielded house wiring.
Sittingtaoist, i don't suppose there is an affordable way to measure the pulses?

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#8 2015-01-14 10:40:55

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Re: shielding "smart" meters

Is there a way to attach an inductance clamp to a multimeter and set it to frequency rating and watch for any fluctuations from the normal 60Hz USA?

Perhaps plug the inductance clamp tool into an oscilloscope to watch for any spikes in the frequency? If only one a day like the man with the flyer says... I wouldn't worry about it. But I will be using shielded electrical wiring in my cabin [additions].

I never used an oscilloscope before, but can't you read amplitude and frequency at the same time? What about a recorder function? Plug the output into your computer Mic input and record and use the audio from that for further investigation at your leisure?

Is any of this even possible? Sounds easy enough technologically with what is already out there..

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#9 2015-01-14 11:20:16

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Re: shielding "smart" meters

Loohan wrote:

Sittingtaoist, i don't suppose there is an affordable way to measure the pulses?

http://lessemf.com/rf.html#409

Smartmeter measuring shown at the end of the demonstration video.

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#10 2015-01-14 11:40:57

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Re: shielding "smart" meters

Bal, an induction clamp is meant for measuring 60Hz AC, isn't it? Then it probably won't do for the about 925 MHz from a smartmeter.
But a simple antenna should do.

Then you will need a high frequency oscilloscope, like the Tectronix MSO5204B, that you can get for only $24,800.

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#11 2015-01-14 16:44:47

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Re: shielding "smart" meters

sittingtaoist wrote:

http://lessemf.com/rf.html#409

Smartmeter measuring shown at the end of the demonstration video.

Thanks. I won't do business with that guy again, so i looked for it elsewhere. [Edit: he was Egyptoid, now replaced by repticlone.] It has some neg reviews at amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/EM2-Multi-Purpose … merReviews

This place charges a lot more, but has more info:
http://www.orgonelab.org/cart/ycellphonemeter.htm

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#12 2015-01-15 06:22:00

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Re: shielding "smart" meters

Loohan wrote:

Thanks. I won't do business with that guy again, so i looked for it elsewhere.

First time i hear anything but good about Lessemf.

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#13 2015-01-15 06:25:42

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Re: shielding "smart" meters

Please note that shielding only blocks EMR (electro magnetic radiation)!
EMR is not the problem. DOR is the problem.
Shielding does not block DOR, but it transforms it - somewhat like orgonite. Thus it usually helps, but not always. Sometimes shielding makes matters worse. Some ES people have shielded their bedrooms with carbon-paint, and the bedrooms became completely inhabitable.
So shielding is not as reliable as orgonite, as it sometimes seems to create more or worse DOR.

Instruments measure EMR, not DOR. Thus, they will show that a shielding works fine, even when an ES person experiences that is does not.

But i have discovered something new:
In 2003, when i made my first orgonite, lacking a mold, i used pill bottles. After the resin had set, i experimented with feeling the orgone, and found that it came out the opening as a concentrated beam, while nothing came out through the sides and bottom!

I think i posted about it on Stuart's forum, but nobody seemed to notice.
I still hope that people with other sensitivities that mine will experiment with this,  because - as DOR is just negative orgone - this material (polyethylene or polypropylene) may be able to shield DOR.

And lo and behold, recently a German scientist Reiner Gebbensleben found that a plastic bag (polyethylene) can block DOR (which he calls 'hyperschall') from a cell phone. I will post a link when i find that article again.

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#14 2015-01-15 08:27:50

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Re: shielding "smart" meters

sittingtaoist wrote:

Please note that shielding only blocks EMR (electro magnetic radiation)!
Sometimes shielding makes matters worse. Some ES people have shielded their bedrooms with carbon-paint, and the bedrooms became completely inhabitable.

have read this thing as well, but maybe the problem is a pour ground, or a ground where there is DOR, or maybe a black leyline ?
thinking of it... I see like walls will put out the energy of the ground, and that can be worse if the ground is full of DOR.
can this be the point?

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#15 2015-01-15 10:06:27

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Re: shielding "smart" meters

There were a number of such cases on the ES forum http://es-forum.com/
They were examined by a "Baubiologe" who has the the site http://www.milieuziektes.nl/ and Dr Dietrich Grün,
http://bioprotect.de/elektrosmog/en/forsch.php to exclude the possibility of grounding problems.

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