13, 3's and geometry: the key to "dark side" offense

jeaux · 2016-01-06 21:42:17

Hey all. My girlfriend has been having a rough time lately. She is the constant target of EHETs, implanting her with all manners of things. There is a near constant pain in her heart, and even if they are removed, they are soon replaced. I didn't seem to have much effect, so Loohan helped me out the other day, telling me she had 13 implants in her heart, and six demons each in her legs and feet. I asked him how I could best remove them on my own, and he said it's best if I'm able to dowse the number of implants. Once I have that number, they all come out at once.

So I'm trying to improve my number dowsing skills.

I've gotten to thinking about the numbers used by the various nefarious. Why 3, 6, 9? Why 13? It seems to be their exclusive choice for arranging an attack, or to layer on spells, implants, etc. Or to organize most any action they take.

Since I'm more a visual person, I knew fretting over numbers as an abstract term wouldn't get me anywhere. To understand this, I'd have to see it. So instead of numbers, I instead decided to make the number a symbol; a visual representation of what that number means. For simplicity's sake, I decided to show this by drawing a number of dots equal to the value of the digit.

The question I asked myself: How should these dots be organized?

I thought to make it as symmetrical and geometric as possible. I came up with these variants.

After seeing how neatly these shapes come out, I had a strong hunch that this was a key to its strength. 9 and 13 look almost like stars with their centralized, highly symmetrical shapes. Perhaps it's not so much the number that those with dark inclinations tend to flock to, but the geometry. Since everything about our reality is geometric and based in math, it makes sense to think it could apply to higher dimensional interaction and form as well. This is also evidenced in many technologies Loohan looked into himself, such as the geometry of specific mazes, symbols and coils.

I'll compare the shapes of numbers not so much favored, and let's see if we can see any notable similarities or differences.

Comparing the two, there aren't too many differences. There are a few other variants of these shapes, such as for 9, which I post down below. If I had to point out anything, I'd say that some threes, such as 9 and 13, are rather "sharp". In addition, they have a central point, which I notice is hard to include within even numbers and have it remain as symmetrical as possible. So, perhaps these numbers are best for a top-down power hierarchy, with a central figure which oversees other units within this geometry/number. 5 and 7 have this same central figure, though no noted sharpness, AKA points that protrude out.

To be honest, I find nothing inherently evil about this geometry. It just seems best for attack. To penetrate, anchor, and stay organized. Many of the non-three numbers remind me of flowers. Softer, and a little funkier. Perhaps they're just meant to radiate, or store up energy? In any case, they don't seem as poised to penetrate as the variants of three, as well as 13.

I then started thinking, are there variants that have, instead of a point in the middle, another shape consisting of multiple points? I tried this with 9.

The variant on the right is a good example of an unlikely geometry to be used. Not very symmetrical, and hard to balance the points. The left example, however, could be a potential choice. It utilizes both a unit of 3 and 6, coming together as a unit of 9. Now in the next picture, I highlight in green how I envision such a power structure might be placed.

(it's hard to tell, but the inner triangle is also connected through the dashes. Didn't show up well)

Perhaps it's a unit of three in unison, each unit of the three being part of another three connected further to it. This is what this last picture depicts. Or it's a unit of three channeling into a pool of six, each their own all-inclusive unit.

BEYOND 2D

I then realized that it may be unlikely that these shapes utilize a planar, or flat configuration. Perhaps the "power structure" and all inclusive energies of 3's and 13's may be accessed by viewing them this way as "symbolic schematics". Or perhaps not. Maybe it would be required to at least visualize them as being 3D. I doubt it goes much beyond that, at least from our perspective. Higher dimensional shapes require many points. Perhaps, on a scale we can't perceive, a higher dimensional shape is involved, and its "tendrils" so to speak we end up perceiving as units of three and 13. In either case, these tendrils will be at most 3D at their finest points, so it's a worthy area to investigate.

As for which 3D shapes these would turn out to be... that will take further research. I'll update in a future post.

I felt a good place for us to start would be the Platonic solids, and anything related to them. Scanning this Wikipedia page is a good start. I found it exciting; these shapes may very well be the basis to magic, both harmful and helpful.

TO SUM UP FOR NOW

I feel that trying to dowse if these GEOMETRY are present (be it for implants, foes, spells, anything) rather than just a DIGIT, I may have better luck getting a read off it. So far I've been stumped on dowsing numbers. Perhaps following this structure will help me, and even better, it might be of help to some of you as well.

I'll let you know if it is beneficial to my goal: to better handle implants. And whether it can stave off any other sorts of extradimensional harm. So far it seems to get me more "in touch" with my target. Not much else just yet.

If anyone has any good sources on geometry in magic, or dark deeds, or any shape or number which you feel has an effect on this or another reality, I would really enjoy it if you would share. Perhaps together we can take this train of thought somewhere further.

Jakub · 2016-01-06 23:48:09

Some beings could make much harm just with their mind abilities alone, but for the rest there is black magic So they are using some energy as a base for ritual/attack and the geometry,numbers,words to organize it.As i read through your post Joe new black magic for me seems pretty logical i think. I wanted to write down my new point of view but then i understood that im still kinda confused with black magic as it's not my job to pratice this but still my overall view could help i think.If dark siders want to cause some harm with black magic they must start with bad energy(DOR ?) they are running out of ways to cast successful rituals so they are working on new ways to cause DOR.What matters is augmenting this energy by organizing it.Universe is organized using math and geometry as you stated.Bad emotions can cause much harm for human who is feeling them.But do these emotions could cause considerable harm for other people ? Nah, i think this would be weird or even idiotic. The way to make this work is organising it by the rules of universe using: geometry: starting from 2D forms, magic circles made with chalk on the ground going to multidimensional figures which can be even imagined,numbers: connected with their magic circles,number of persons performing rituals,literally everything which connects to numbers,words: magic spells with worst possible vibe(as we are speaking of magic spells i was reading much time ago about ancient secret language which was used by some "suitable" people to cause unimaginable things for example i remember: the guy was writing on paper without any physical contact with brush, later he summoned spirit of a known painter and brush was painting in the style of said painter he said something like he is accessing the memory of the painter which remains even after death of psychical body,he also was said to summon living hands not attached to anything, so the story about this was covered to little details, the name of this miracle guy is said in the article, i will try to find this) Organising/augmenting energy is a must for both a black and white magic.The white magic usually start with intention of caster the stronger he is by himself the more he can do, comparing it to black magic which is used in hella big groups sometimes and augmenting in every way possible probably cause one caster is weak. now they don't even have mind abilities cause lack of soul and Ehets are trying to make it work,White magic today is mostly just good intention of caster, no one thinks of using it in warfare some people don't even know about this war, so basically one of potent way to fight today is using intention being augmented by orgone technology but i think if you could mimic all of dark-siders metods and turn them around it would make a lot of difference, like we could try with organised blasting with exact number of people for example 7 ,this would be easiest to try.I have seen interesting device some time ago, i wasn't posting about it cause it was hella expensive, the device had a lot of experiments behind i think even knowing about every detail, there will be a lot of work to mimic this,But its connected to the thread in some way and could lead to new ideas or be used in form it is now:

http://www.violetflame-merkaba.com/en/m … amids.html

Device is using multidimensional geometry and energy of stones and metals.

Rememer that if you even consider making money of concept of this device you should first contact it creators to avoid future trouble with them
Also i think that shape of merkaba is connected to atoms also.

ndw · 2016-01-07 02:17:22

the only things that come to my mind at the moment are some pics of 'back to a future to mankind' book, where there are some number and their geometry to concentrate orgone energy.

like 4 dots forming an equilateral triangle with the 4th dot inside.
7 an arrow where there is a triangle with 3 dots of each side, and the 7th the leg of the arrow....
12 a rectangle triangle, sides are 4 dots,5 dots forming the rectangle angle and 6 dots for the hypotenuse.

but I don't see 13.

I think there is much more stuff on platonic solid. basically we should understand first what each platonic solid do. and then it is just a matter of sense to see how it can be used by 'them'.

jeaux · 2016-01-07 03:26:51

Wow, wonderful responses. Definite food for thought.

Also, yes, Jakub, thanks for mentioning the relation of the merkaba and atoms. I totally forgot to include this. We should also investigate the arrangement of atoms. Different geometries on the atomic scale affect each other in different ways. Is it possible that energetic warfare emulates the positioning of atoms and atomic bonds? Oxygen, the element of change, will be an important one to take a look at, as would carbon.

Makes me nostalgic for high school chemistry! Was always my favorite science.

ndw · 2016-01-07 07:29:36

just have a look at carbon, oxygen and nitrogen
carbon is cubic in diamond, and hexagonal in graphite

oxygen cubic

nitrogen hexagonal

then also look at atomic configuration
Carbon

oxygen

nitrogen

I think we should find the platonic solids in these stuff....

Loohan · 2016-01-07 09:22:07

My attention span is too short to follow all this discussion of geometry, but i will mention that there are certain numbers the darkside usually uses in its attacks, whether it is the number of ETs per craft, the number of craft, the number of demons, implants, etc.:

3, 6, 9, 13, 27, 33, 66, 99, 333, 666, etc.

However one race which eventually accepted therapy and switched sides, was using 5-based numerology.

Usually the good ETs do not use such numerology. They are more likely to use 2, 4, 5, 7, 10, etc. However, the Alah-kur usually go 6 per battle-craft.

But we have used 3-based numerology in our devices to good effect. The old Trinity Wand, for example, and the 6-pipe CBs, work fine.
Something interesting about these turtles i made years ago:

On 2 of them i used several of the little red hollow cylindrical caps which i collect. Each time i open a gallon of epoxy, i have to remove one of these which locks the goop in the jug. I have used them for molds as well as (by trapping air pockets) resonant cavities in devices. Rarely am i guided to imbed them, but the top 2 turtles in the last pic have some.

turtles.resonantcavities.jpg

I never plan or think about how i make these things. It was not until earlier this year that i happened to count the number of these cavities in these turtles.
One has 9, and the other, 13 ...

jeaux · 2016-01-09 01:29:25

Hm. Yes, we have a few examples of these numbers being useful to us. Another example is the Hexagonal program, which has unique features due to it having six sides. Though to really prove this, we'd have to try placing the program in pentagram shaped molds as well. See if it maintains.

I had some new conclusions today. At the very least, these 2D interpretations of these numbers appear to serve as a viable way to interact with them. I'll explain what I mean by that in a bit.

If these geometries are potentially how negative energies/entities arrange themselves, then is it possible to "negate" them with opposing geometry? I gave it a shot. The black dots are the same configurations I had in my first post. The hollow white dots are opposing geometric configurations. These won't be so pretty; I scribbled them on the back of some receipt paper between customers while at work.

Opposing numbers fit inside all of these geometries like a glove. I included how one could use combos of smaller numbers instead of one big number. Here are some other varieties.

In any case, I decided to have a little to smoke, and a little to drink. Attract some negative attention, as it always does. This is how I sometimes test out new hunches. As it turns out, visualizing energetic harassment as having these configurations, and then negating them with a "positive" configuration works BEAUTIFULLY. I'd say it works just as well as the May2015 pgm in how well it nullifies psychic harassment.

It's the "other half" of DOR, I guess you could say. If not DOR, then the manner in which it is organized and used for attack. These geometries snuggle in like a key to a lock, creating a whole new configuration. This configuration you could consider to be "inert," or at the very least stripped of the harm it can do. Best case scenario, we can "hijack" the entire thing and make it work to our devices.

Whichever the case, the structure is ruined, and if those who wish to harass wish to continue harassing, they'll have to create a whole new structure.

I'll admit, I couldn't dowse which numbers were being used against me. As I attempted to record this into my phone, I was pestered to an extreme degree. Gave me a good chance to test this out. Luckily I still found it to be an effective tool. Simply imagining the geometries of 4, 5 and 7 driving into the source of the aggression seemed to work. It was, in a word, awesome.

Please give it a try.

One more thing. In the Kabbalah, their central mystical symbol is the Tree of Life. It has ten points, called Sephirot. I wonder if any aspects of how that symbol is used would relate to our current topic? I'm going to look into it during the next few days. From what I understand, this symbol is central to Kabbalistic magic.

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ndw · 2016-01-10 06:03:58

nice idea Jeaux. will think to try it!

ndw · 2016-01-10 20:35:37

just found out that does exist molecules that can trap other molecules inside. maybe even more from a subtle energy point of view

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clathrate_compound

jeaux · 2016-01-13 01:06:59

Hmmm! As it says on that page you linked to, the most common form is frozen methane beneath the ocean floor and in the tundra. There's billions upon billions of tons of this stuff all over the Earth. I wonder, does it serve an energetic purpose? Maybe it serves the planet in some way. Maybe not...

I'll admit, I was thinking more along the lines of basic chemistry (atoms giving or taking electrons from each other, then creating a new geometric structure together). This way the energy each ion has is neutralized. If you have magnesium (which has a +2 charge, meaning it has two electrons to give), it will attract and cancel out oxygen (which is thirsty for two electrons). After this exchange, they become bonded, and the geometry changes. This is called an ionic bond.

However, this is pretty neat. Maybe this could be a useful way to organize beneficial energies, or to create an array that can maintain harmony and slowly accumulate power. As for offensive maneuvers, I'll have to think on it...

jeaux · 2016-01-13 01:36:43

One more thing! I realized what I'm saying here might not be very approachable to everyone. What is it exactly that I'm making these preferable geometries out of?

In essence, these points in my geometries are anything that has form and consistent energy. For example, any sort of generally effective orgonite or programmed crystal. I usually use my gifting sites as "ammunition" for these geometric points, since they are plentiful and all have about the same strength, since I placed about the same amount at each site. For me, this makes creating symmetric geometric arrangements simpler than trying to make it out of various specialized items with different power levels and abilities. All gifting sites have at least MarA2015, which works on most everything, and I feel it's a good choice to counter negative geometries.

I do not map them out or concentrate on which gifting site will be which point on a given geometry. I instead focus on the geometry itself, and I trust that the spots will be filled in with the necessary energy to make the geometry formidable. In addition, once the geometry is formed in my mind and properly fueled, I trust it will find its target amongst organized negative energies, much like the magnesium ion pressing into a mass of oxygen ions mentioned in my previous post.

One more thing! I feel I got the geometry for 6 wrong. It's bugged me for a while. I think it would most likely be organized this way. It just... makes better sense.

7 would neutralize it quite well, I feel. 7 is a great geometry; when I engage it I notice a nice, empowering effect. If I were to describe how I visualize it, it's like a small indestructible handheld shield; each point made of bright burning light. Anything that drives into it loses momentum quick and has much difficulty proceeding. Yet it's a shield you can press into an enemy as well, searing into them, rendering them immobile, stunned, drained, canceled out.

Out of curiosity I made a bigger triangle that added up to 15, though apparently this number is rarely encountered. I wonder why? It makes me a little skeptical of this whole framework. Yet it seems to work for me. Maybe I'll figure it out eventually.

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ndw · 2016-01-19 14:57:39

Jeaux, I have a difficult number for you, it is the record of spells, at least until now, done to my license driving card, and 2 other cards....

it is 999! 3 x 999 spells !

Loohan · 2016-01-19 15:18:43

ndw wrote:

it is 999! 3 x 999 spells !

This sort of number is extremely common, at least used to be. In years past, i would often get astronomical numbers like
6666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666.666___ googol, etc. in attacking demons.

jeaux · 2016-01-20 12:25:51

If all of this is truly due to geometry, my guess is that threes are simple to add on to any shape. It could click in place almost anywhere, like a Lego.

What makes me pause is that they don't add on threes arbitrarily. For example, you don't see many combos of 15. They have to add up to specific amounts.

6 and 9 appear to make strong triangular shapes. It's possible these larger numbers simply utilize many, many duplicates of these triangles. To me it just seems wiser and more efficient to group together smaller groups and then unite them, rather than form one gigantic, unique geometry out of, say, 999 points. That seems like a headache to organize, even higher dimensionally.

My reasons for this thinking is that, whenever I have to deal with demonic harassment, it's never really one, big, monolithic construction that has to fall, but rather it's a game of endurance. You have to jail, jail, and jail some more. You make progress, but you feel the same pressure come back again and again. As if they're waves of reinforcements being sent one after another. This seems to support the idea that they utilize a modular structure; that is, they have identical units that they fire off one after another.

There are three ways I can see this playing out.

1) This could involve a massive organization of 999 demons, which then break apart into units of 3, 6, 9, 13 in order to actually sink their teeth into something.

2) Or they stay united as 999 and attack as one giant unit. This unit consists of pieces (3, 6, 9, 13) cemented in place like one giant jigsaw.

3) They're united as 999 in one giant unique geometry, specially made and constructed for just that number. AKA, not modular.

I don't have evidence for it yet, but if our enemies were intelligent, a modular organization just makes more sense. Units could separate and regroup with ease, and thus change shape or tactics whenever it was required.

But if they WEREN'T intelligent, they would make these large groups that couldn't break up or change. Their only strength lies in their brute force in numbers. However, if anyone can dowse their number it's all for naught, and they're gobbled up instantly.

Sorry if this is confusing. I'm just musing out loud...

I suppose it's possible different entities utilize this in different ways. My theories may not apply to all of them, but perhaps to some.

jeaux · 2016-01-20 12:38:20

As for your question ndw, first I have to learn what a spell actually is.

A demon, I can understand, has a viewpoint, a point of consciousness. It's contained.

A spell I know nothing about. Is it crystallized to a point? Does it have its own unique geometry? What makes it persist?

Perhaps it's geometry that makes it persist. But if that's true, what would the "points" of the geometry be made of? Crystalline intention and energy?

If that's the case, it seems similar to what I use geometry for as a counterattack. Since my energy sources aren't derived from ritual or some other source, but are instead renewable and tireless (as orgonite is), I can see why it's effective when used this way.

If anyone could help me understand what a spell IS, and whether or not geometry might play a factor, I might be able to figure out an easy way to take them down. At the moment, my only recourse for spell disarmament is to call on that green coil turtle that Loohan made. I have no idea how it does what it does, but I will note that it utilizes a spiraled wire in a circular shape. A strongly geometric item, for each spiral is the same dimensions as the other. This makes me think geometry can be of use to us concerning spells. Perhaps the spirals in the coil work in resonance with each other, picking apart geometries in unison.

Loohan, do you have any insight on how certain sentient devices of yours are able to disarm spells? How does one do that?

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